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Algeron Zolo · Sep 20, 2006, 03:02 AM // 03:02

Okay, I was wondering. From what I can see, the most popular warrior elites are suped up weapon attacks. But what about a skill that actually BOOSTS your ability to use other uber death skills?!

Battle Rage (look it up on Guildwiki.org if u dont know what it does), when combined with a passive heal, (Watchful Spirit, MENDING!!!, etc.) is a great skill. The main reason its more effective than "For Great Justice" is it has no recharge time AND gives DOUBLE the adrenaline boost!

(i guess thats why its an elite...

).

So I want to know, why would I want to use Eviscerate/Cleave etc. over Battle Rage? Also, please dont say its b/c you lose all your adrenaline when it ends, b/c it only costs 4 strikes to activate, which doesnt take very long to obtain. (if you use the skill properly, it shouldn't end at all.)

Vermilion Okeanos · Sep 20, 2006, 03:50 AM // 03:50

Because you lose all andrenline when battlerage end, and if I remember right, it deplete all your andrenline from re-activating it as well.

**Marty Silverblade** · Sep 20, 2006, 08:11 AM // 08:11

Yep, reactivating counts as ending the stance and entering it again. Therefore you lose all your adrenaline. The only other thing about this skill is that you must take it when capping Dragon Slash. If you have 16 swordsmanship, Dragon Slash gives 5 adrenaline. That means Battle Rage will completely recharge Dragon Slash. If you take 3 other high adrenaline sword skills (such as Sun and Moon Slash, Standing Slash, Galrath Slash, and Silverwing Slash), they can all be spammed

v, without having any 'normal' attacks inbetween. Just until Battle Rage ends/reapplied that is

Dinkytowner · Sep 20, 2006, 04:47 PM // 16:47

W/Mo with Succor, Battle Rage and a pile of adren attacks works nicely. Put succor on your monks and go make a mess. Extra energy regen = happy monks.

Wretchman Drake · Sep 22, 2006, 02:49 PM // 14:49

not many people like this skill but I use it with my warrior in TA and RA. I don't use any enchantments I'm all about Pure Strike/the factions copy of it, and Bulls Strike. For adrenaline I only use Sever, Gash, and Final Thrust, but with Battle Rage I see it more as a spammable sprint to use Bulls Strike on foes easier, runners are never an issue with it. Plus i can get Sever off quick on a runner just in case. i dont care what other people say about it, people focus too much on the possiblity to spam attack skills, but I mainly use it as a quick sever artery and sprint. hope that helps

p.s. if somsone on ur team says it sux, dont listen. use it correctly, its ok to let a skill be underestimated...

sage tank · Sep 26, 2006, 04:59 PM // 16:59

The power of battle rage don't 100% lie within the fast adr recharge rate, don't people notice the 25% speed boast?? being able to keep battle rage up all the time(even if you lose all adr when reativate) mean that you can whack the bijesus out of strifer and runner. IT IS THE ONLY STANCE THAT HAS BOTH SPEED BOAST AND FASTER ADRENALINE RECHARGE.....

whobitz · Sep 29, 2006, 03:17 AM // 03:17

In PvP...meh I'd rather go with good ol' Evis./Exec. combo. In PvE it's not too bad. Speed boost is always fun (though if you're just looking for the speed boost there's this thing called Rush...) and double adrenaline is shiny too. For Great Justice followed by Battle Rage = 300% adrenaline gain. Not too shabby...

@Marty:
With Dragon Slash, Standing Slash, Galrath/Silverwing Slash, and For Great Justice you can have a full chain of +40 damage skills (assuming a speed boost/some kind of stance for Standing) for 20 seconds (this assumes minimum 14 Swordmanship for Dragon Slash to work properly). It would work with skills other than Standing and Galrath, but I liked seeing constant ~70s come up every second over whatever I was hitting.

Former Ruling · Sep 29, 2006, 04:53 AM // 04:53

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For Great Justice followed by Battle Rage = 300% adrenaline gain. Not too shabby...

When nightfall comes out, Adrenaline gain is capped at 100% (double).

whobitz · Oct 03, 2006, 02:28 AM // 02:28

Damn ranger spirit...

And just to clarify, by 300% I meant 3x the normal gain.

Former Ruling · Oct 03, 2006, 03:04 AM // 03:04

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Originally Posted by whobitz

Damn ranger spirit...

And just to clarify, by 300% I meant 3x the normal gain.

I was just correcting you, RIGHT NOW "For Great Justice!" stacks with Battle Rage, but the official site notes that on release of Nightfall (and during the event that passed) that it will change

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After the conclusion of the weekend event, they will be removed from the game again until the release of Guild Wars Nightfall.
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* Capped adrenaline gain so that no player ever receives more than double adrenaline from adrenaline-boosting skills.

This is probably because of the Adrenaline boosters from Paragons, and The Sweltering Heat ranger elite. Think about if this wasn't changed:
Doubled from Sweltering Heat/Battle Rage/etc
+50% on top fo that from "For Great Justice!"
+up to 96% on top of that from Focused Anger

You could charge the big beefy attacks in 1-2 hits >_> So they are capping it at 100%

Phoenix Arrows · Oct 03, 2006, 03:51 AM // 03:51

I tried it a bit a while ago, dropped it for other elites. If I could choose another elite stance, I would rather pick Bull's Charge. Speed boost and knockdown if they are moving. Doesn't erase all Adrenaline, although it ends when you use a skill.

The Silver Star · Oct 03, 2006, 03:02 PM // 15:02

When Factions didnt exist it was ok to take on a sword warrior as.. hundred blades is really bad for an elite, however with new sword elites its just as good as the new ones (i know Battle Rage is not a sword attribute elite)

EPO Bot · Oct 03, 2006, 03:53 PM // 15:53

The key to effective raging is refreshing it when all other adrenaline skills (one of them probably dismember),are empty and BR is lit. Sounds simple enough huh? It completely makes you a energy free hard hitter who also moves fast most of the time. Elite enough for me.

Haggard · Oct 04, 2006, 07:12 AM // 07:12

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

Yep, reactivating counts as ending the stance and entering it again. Therefore you lose all your adrenaline. The only other thing about this skill is that you must take it when capping Dragon Slash. If you have 16 swordsmanship, Dragon Slash gives 5 adrenaline. That means Battle Rage will completely recharge Dragon Slash. If you take 3 other high adrenaline sword skills (such as Sun and Moon Slash, Standing Slash, Galrath Slash, and Silverwing Slash), they can all be spammed

v, without having any 'normal' attacks inbetween. Just until Battle Rage ends/reapplied that is

You get the same effect from the mesmer elite Echo and Dragon Slash. Using the echo recharges the normal, and vice versa. +40 damage every hit is fun!

huntingtonm · Oct 04, 2006, 09:12 AM // 09:12

Completely in favor of battle rage, yes as everyone comments it wipes you out when u refresh it, but being able to put out twice as many disrupting chops and chasing anyone down makes for an elite too good to be true, i remember someone doing the figures and it works out BR gives more dmg over time but less spike-ability damage.

I feel if ur chasin down a kiting monk and disrupting him more often the kill usually comes cause the pressure just gets too much. Saying that Mo/A can be tricky little blighters

Hollerith · Oct 04, 2006, 02:42 PM // 14:42

I had a lot of fun with Rage, "For Great Justice!", Standing Slash, & Sun/Moon Slash.

"To The Limit!" helps with the loss of adrenaline.

CrispyCritter · Oct 04, 2006, 03:25 PM // 15:25

The real joy of Battle Rage is putting it on a hammer warrior with Counter Blow.

EPO Bot · Oct 05, 2006, 10:51 AM // 10:51

Every time i put BR in my skillbar, i somehow have to think of Odo from Star trek: Deep space nine...wielding a lightsabre.

Thomas.knbk · Oct 05, 2006, 11:12 AM // 11:12

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Originally Posted by EPO Bot

Every time i put BR in my skillbar, i somehow have to think of Odo from Star trek: Deep space nine...wielding a lightsabre.

Every time I put it in I can't help thinking I should've taken eviscerate

Flopjack · Oct 05, 2006, 02:14 PM // 14:14

I have always thought Battle Rage was a really good skill, but mre often then not I find people bashing it. It seems to be an exellent pressure skill. I don't play PvE Warrior, however I unlocked all the Warrior stuff with Faction. Using sword, and 5 sword attacks, I can get myself to the point where any time I swing it is an attack skill with BR. I just hit 1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5 and move on down the line with my attacks.